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Am I wrong for giving up on the male population because of Andrew Tate?

...and deciding to be lesbian despite the fact that I was bisexual.

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Apr 08, 2025
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Let’s unpack one of last week’s most popular posts.

But first, here’s what else people are talking about on Diem:

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With Gen Z men’s swing towards conservatism and shows like Adolescence revealing the toxic depths of the manosphere, the already overwhelming influence of misogyny feels like it’s getting even worse. As a result, one Diemer is contemplating if it’s fair to give up on dating men altogether. Are figures like Andrew Tate overblown, or does his one bad apple spoil the whole bunch? Here’s what Diemers are saying:

You’re not wrong

Cis-gender straight woman here. I think it is good to take a step back right now and also look at how we have been programmed in the patriarchal system. I haven't looked for a partner for 15 years and very happy about it. I got tired of dealing with their behaviour AND mine. I found how I changed when in a relationship with a man very disturbing and it clashes with how I wanted to be. I think until I meet someone who is fine with me pushing back and creating a constructive relationship together, then I'm happy to be single. I keep working on myself for myself and my daughters and friends, so I'm not in any hurry to be in another relationship unless it's a good one.

Historically speaking this is a common interaction for women farther along on the sexuality spectrum to choose lesbianism out of a reaction to cultural norms being anti women and or personal traumatizing experiences with men. This is why many lesbians in gender theory advocates for the notion of “born this way” being a thing of the past as it does deny all existence of people’s lived experiences while centered gay men. There is a book that goes into this by the American sociologist who focuses on gender identify called “the tragedy of heterosexuality” by Jane ward

Eh, not sure

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